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cbs news poll shows mitt romney getting a post-debate bounce in two key states. >>> rescued from the wreckage. two people are pulled to safety in the aftermath of a deadly collapse at a parking garage. >>> diamond drama. post-season baseball heats up with two fantastic finishes. this is the "cbs morning news" for thursday, october 11, 2012. good morning, everybody, good to be with you. i'm terrell brown. debates between vice presidential candidates aren't supposed to matter but after president obama's poor debate performance last week, the faceoff between joe biden and paul ryan has turned it into a high stakes affair. in colorado president obama held a slim lead in september now romney has a one-point edge. in wisconsin the president was leading by six points last month, he leads romney by just three points now. in virginia the president continues to hold on to a small lead. tara mergener is in washington following all of this. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. boy the pressure sure is on tonight particularly for joe biden who will be trying to gain ground followin
to stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from her city but she's not going jail. this is the "cbs morning news" for friday, october 12, 2012. good morning. good to be with you. i'm terrell brown. compared to last week's presidential debate last night's face off between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan was like a shoot out at the ok corral. from the get go it was a pull no punches performance by both candidates. they squared off on everything from the economy to foreign affairs. randall pinkston is at the debate site in danville, kentucky. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. both candidates came here on a mission. congressman ryan to criticize the obama administration's failures and republican solutions while vice president biden was defending the presidential record and also complaining about the republican plan for the nation. >> i will be very specific -- >> reporter: vice president joe biden wasted no time challenging congressman paul ryan's take on foreign policy. >> with all due respect that's a bunch of malarky. not a single thing you said is accurate.
decades ago. cbs 5 reporter anne makovec has new clues in the case. >> reporter: her mother wrote on her facebook page last night, dear michaela, this could be in. she is talking about a bone fragment that was found. they tested it here at the hayward police department. the results were inconclusive. that bone now being sent to a lab in virginia. the results could take weeks. but there are some reasons to believe that that bone fragment could belong to michaela garecht. she was abducted in hayward in 1988. that bone was initially given to the family of another victim, joann hobson's remains found in a well in linden, a well where remains from victims of two serial killers dubbed the "speed freak" killers have been found. that was back in february. when hobson's family received the remains, they ordered some tests, suspicious after seeing investigators dig up the burial site with a backhoe. that testing found 28 of the bone fragments given to the family belonged to other people. at least three other people, including a child between the ages of 5 and 14. michaela was 9 when she disappeare
we are going right to cbs 5 reporter cate caugiran on the scene with the very latest. cate what can you tell us. >> reporter: i can tell you that the fire started in the squat and gobble popular restaurant here in san francisco. crews are busy battling flames. there's heavy smoke in the air. this restaurant is completely gutted. it is a complete loss for the building here. i can see already dozens of firefighters here on scene trying to tackle this fire. they have been at it for quite a while. crews say that they got the call right at around 4:00, 4:14 this morning and the fire quickly grew to three alarms. flames were shooting up as high as 10 to 20 feet. heavy smoke in the area and now they have set up a perimeter here along west portal. they have shut down as i was talking about that tunnel over here now. as far as the firefighting efforts are concerned, we are about to get an update from the public information officer to learn more. what i can tell you right now is there are a lot of confused people out here especially morning commuters as they are trying to figure out alternati
of her daughter after two decades. cbs 5 reporter anne makovec reports with new clues on the case. >> reporter: her mother wrote on this facebook page that she has been running for a while, she wrote on it overnight, dear michaela, i think this might be it. there is a bone fragment tested it results inconclusive. it's now being sent to a lab in virginia for positive identification. but results could take weeks. now, investigators want to know if it belongs to michaela garecht abducted here in hayward back in 1988. the bone fragment was again to another family. joanne hobson's body was found. the family was suspicious after seeing investigators dig up the burial site with a backhoe. testing found 28 of the bone fragments given to the family belonged to at least three other people including a child between the ages of 5 and 14. michaela was nine when she disappeared. >> i don't know how else to live because because we have lived this way for so long searching for michaela and hoping that she would come home. >> reporter: a sketch of michaela's alleged kidnapper looks similar to "sp
the debate are mixed. -- in a cbs news poll of uncommitted voters, 50% thought the vice president run, 31% sided for ryan and 19% called it a tie. 56% thought biden would be an effective president if necessary compared with 49% for ryan. not surprisingly, both sides claimed victory. mitt romney's campaign said biden seemed off balance and strange. the president's team said the debate exposed the risks of electing a romney/ryan ticket. the next presidential debate is tuesday. randall pinkston, cbs news, danville, kentucky. and we can expect those poll results to change in the coming days as the samples are increased and the polling organizations dig deeper on the impact of these first and only vice-presidential debates. reporting live in danville, kentucky, i'm randall pinkston, back to you. >> randall, it's certainly interesting to watch a lot more sparks in this debate than the presidential debate. what were considered the strong and weak points of the candidate? >> well, after president obama's performance last week democrats have to show they are willing to fight and also defend the p
daughter for decades. police are testing a bone fragment taken from a san joaquin county well. cbs 5 reporter anne makovec is in hayward now with michaela garecht's mother's reaction to new developments. >> reporter: the police department here eagerly awaiting the results of the test. they first tested the bones here with inconclusive results and the bone is being sent to a lab in virginia. results who that bone belonged to could take weeks. investigators want to know if it belongs to michaela garecht. she was abducted in hayward in 1988. she was nine years old. that bone was initially given to the family of another victim joanne hobson's remains found in a linden well in february when hobson's family received the remains. they ordered the tests. they were suspicious when they saw the site dug up with a backhoe. 28 of the bone fragments given to that family belonged to at least three other people including a child between the ages 56 and 14. >> that's truly shameful. i have to thank joanne hobson's family because they received their daughter's remains and rather than just accepting
after the debate are mixed. in a cbs news poll of uncommitted voters, 50% thought the vice president won. 31% sided for ryan and 19% called it a tie. 56% thought biden would be an effective president if necessary compared with 49% for ryan. not surprisingly, both sides claimed victory. mitt romney's campaign said biden seemed off balanced and strange. the president's team said the debate exposed the risks of electing a romney-ryan ticket. the next presidential debate is tuesday. randall pinkston, cbs news, danville, kentucky. >> if you plan in voting in maryland, d.c. or virginia in the upcoming november election and you haven't registered to vote, you only have a few days left. in virginia you have till monday. maryland tuesday is the last day to register. d.c. it's friday, october 19 and you have to do it in person in d.c. for more on voter registration, go to wusa9.com and look under campaign 2012. >>> another d.c. lawmaker is being accused of ethics violations. it's all related to a bad real estate deal. the washington metropolitan area authority said jim graham allegedly said he wou
you ask. instant polls taken right after the debate are mixed. in a cbs news poll of uncommitted voters, 50% thought the vice president won. 31% sided for ryan and 19% called it a tie. 56% thought biden would be an effective president if necessary compared with 4 -9d -- with 49% for ryan. not surprisingly both sides claimed victory. mitt romney's campaign said biden seemed off balance and strange. the president's team said the debate exposed the risks of electing a romney-ryan ticket. the next presidential debate is tuesday. randall pinkston, cbs news, danville, kentucky. >>> ray locker is washington enterprise editor at "u.s.a. today." channel 9's sister publications. ray, you're part of the fact checking team we heard in randall's package there, the vice president saying not a single thing that congressman ryan said was accurate. he was talking about one thing. but were there egregious claims made by either candidate last night? >> i wouldn't necessarily say egregious. i would say obviously both candidates made some factual errors when talking about, say, the number of people w
captioning sponsored by cbs >> the work ahead will be hard. these times demand the best of all of us. >> america is coming back! and we're not going back. >> if you can't get it right, it's time to get out. >> we've got to lift the burden off the back of the middle class. >> we can turn this thing around. we can get this right. >> it is never been a good bet to bet against the american people. >> campaign 2012, the vice presidential debate. here is scott pelley. >> pelley: good evening. in the race for the white house, the presidential candidates are passing their batons to their running mates, just for tonight. the vice presidential nominees are facing off in their one and only debate. the democratic incumbent, 69-year-old joe biden of delaware, and his republican challenger, 42-year-old paul ryan, the seven-term congressman from wisconsin and chairman of the house budget committee. they're meeting at centre college in danville, kentucky, and the folks there call this thrill in the ville 2 because centerhosted a debate in 2000 as well. no vice presidential debate ever changed
thing is the cbs poll shows biden winning by a wide margin. i think it was something like 50-33 or something like that. i think the cnn poll's a little weird here. there's something funny about that. >> i think the cbs poll is. >> i'm hearing the cbs poll. i'm not sure if people even watched the debate that were polled in the cbs poll. >> it was undecided debate watchers supposedly. so the interesting thing is, you know, i think biden did what he had to do, which is to get the ticket back on target. >> yeah. >> why don't we watch some clips. >> really? you don't want to give an opinion? okay. the night began on the -- >> mika, what's wrong, mika? you're being so rude. i think -- what do you think? >> yes. i think biden just completely trounced him. ate him for dinner and then spit him out on the table like little shrivelled piece of something. i don't know what. i mean, seriously. >> i didn't see that. >> really? okay. well, that's funny because you had very clear opinions after the last debate. but you have very unclear opinions after this one. and i think it might be becaus
? two polls gave two different views. one showed ryan 48% to 44% ahead. cbs news' flash poll gave biden the win with 50% compared to 31% for ryan and 19% called the debate a tie. for a look at some of the highlights, we go to steve handelsman at the debate sight in danville, kentucky. good morning. >> reporter: good morning from danville, kentucky where they differ sharply on practically all the big issues. these are smart, well informed politicians. paul rye yand and joe biden had reason to feel good last night. a long time democratic insider versus a republican young gun whose ticket has new momentum. mitt romney was watching, barack obama, too. the moderator from abc. they tangled on iran. >> they are closer to a nuclear weapon. >> we will not allow the iranians to get a nuclear weapon. you gonna go to war? is that what you want to do now? >> we want to prevent war. >> what about 47% of americans feeling entitled to benefits. >> i think the vice president knows sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. so does romney. >> what abo
watched the debate. but cbs news' flash poll of uncommitted voters gave biden the win with 50% compared to 31% for ryan and 19% called the debate a tie. well, for a look at some of the highlights from last night's debate we go now to nbc's steve handelsman. he is at the debate site in danville, kentucky. steve, good morning. >> reporter: lynn, thanks. good morning from danville, kentucky, where they differed sharply on practically all the big issues, but these are smart, well-informed politicians. paul ryan and joe biden both had reason to feel good about how that came across here last night. a long-time democratic insider versus a republican young gun whose ticket has new momentum. mitt romney was watching. barack obama too. moderator martha raddatz of abc. they tangled on iran. >> we're moving faster toward a nuclear weapon. it's because this administration has no credibility on this issue. >> we will not allow the iranians to get a nuclear weapon. you're going to go to war, is that what you want to do now? >> we want to prevent war. >> reporter: on the middle class what about mitt ro
the winner. 48% to 45%. a cbs poll found that both candidates made solid impressions but most of those thought the debate was a win for vice president biden. the third survey thought boyden one 50% and -- biden one, 50% and then 31. sandra endo is live in kentucky with more. >> reporter: the day after pundits are debating the debate. >> joe biden is passionate about these issues. he also pointed out how bad this plan of theirs would be for the democrats. >> reporter: joe biden and paul ryan presented starkly divisions for the country. >> 23 million americans are struggling for work today. 15% of americans are living in poverty today. this is not what a real recovery looks like. >> and they are holding hostage the middle-class tax cut because they say we won't pass, we won't continue the middle- class tax cut unless you give the tax cut for the super- wealthy. >> reporter: after president obama's lackluster debate last week, some feel joe biden was on the attack. >> that's a bunch of malarky. >> because he doesn't have a record that is defendable, he keeps to raise his voice. >> any tim
a snap poll in terms of results from tonight's debate. cbs news did a flash poll of uncommitted voters on who they think won tonight's debate. 19% of those voters said the debate was a tie. 31% say that paul ryan won. 50% say that vice president biden won. we're going to be joined in a moment -- we've talked to a couple of people who are functioning as surrogates for the obama campaign tonight. we're going to be speaking with a supporter of ryan and romney in just a moment, congresswoman marsha blackburn in a moment. while we get her to a microphone, i want to get response from you guys to that poll. that comports my feelings about who won the debate. steve, as a republican, does that feel like a reasonable response? >> undecided voters, i certainly think it's in the realm of possibility. you have to look at where all the flash polls are. the thing to remember, just like last week, those undecided voters, they will break to the winner side over the next 48 hours. that lead will spread. if, in fact, there's a 20-point lead off of the flash polls on average with 20% undecided by the time
. as for undecided voters, the cnn poll was of all viewers, but cbs did a poll specifically of undecided voters who were watching the debate, and joe biden won overwhelmingly, 53% to 35% something in that range. those are the voters that people are looking for right now. they clearly said joe biden was the winner. >> one of our polls cnn/orc poll, they said who was more likable. and it was paul ryan who won by a decent margin. almost 10% margin there. also, who performed better at the debate? that looked like a tie from our perspective. >> that was a poll of all the viewers. it was as you indicated earlier slighted weighted towards republicans. >> this was debate watchers. >> right. but the cbs poll was debate watchers who were undecided going in. and they gave the clear victory. >> let's talk a little bit about paul ryan on tax cuts. i want to play a little bit from the debate. >> sure. >>> there aren't enough rich people in small businesses to tax to pay for all their spending. so the next time you hear them say don't worry about it, we'll get a few wealthy people to pay their fair share, watch o
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to send a different message. national review online looked at the company s.e . cbs filing and noted public invest in the wind, solar, biomass and other a tern tiff energy are pract -- alternative energy are practically non-existent. program to combat trueiensy that some feel already went too far has gone further. media report say a texas school district requiring students to wear an i.d. card with a radio frequency chip that tracks their locations. students in san antonio who have opted to use the old i.d.s are being told they cannot vote for homecoming king and queen. the school grounds access is restricted. the program could stave district as much as $175,000 lost daily because of low attendance. which partially determines the school funding. now back to the libya story. deadly terror attack on u.s. mission in benghazi. timing. what the administration knew and said. when it knew and said it. is at the crux of the entire story. take another look at the timeline we first brought you two weeks ago now updated. ugh 2012, unclassified report called al-qaeda in libya, profile, by the de
-point reversal from a week ago. >>> and according to a "new york times"/cbs poll, mitt romney leads the president by one point in colorado. last month the president was up one point in that state. in virginia, president obama's lead from last month grew slightly. he's now up 51%-46%. and in wisconsin, the candidates are within the margin of error after the president lost a point from last month and mitt romney gained two. in all three battleground states, voters by double digits believe the economy is getting better compared to the numbers back in july. >> and mark halperin, that may be the big takeaway from this poll. the race is getting much closer. nobody can predict what's going to happen. if you look at a big friend, thoug trend, you've got to look at a lot of americans in these swing states are looking at the economy saying things are getting better. >> it's clearly a huge factor and yet, obviously, the debate from denver is also a huge factor. i think, you know, we look a lot at the margin of error, and these numbers aren't shifting all that much. what's key is in a lot of the states the p
four weeks. and this round from cbs quinnipiac and the "new york times" shows the president may be leading where it counts most, issues important to the middle class. joining me now is peter brown. thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> voters are were asked who cares more about the needs of people like you and the president leads in all three states, colorado, virginia, and wisconsin. the preference for the president is small in colorado, with you still president. are romney's recent beefed up efforts as we see him try to be more folksy, if you will, to woo the middle qulas, is that not working? >> it seems to be working a little bit. throughout the campaign, the president has scored much better on person about al qualities than has mr. romney. the pattern since mr. romney won the nomination has been he was able to compete on the issue of the economy, but on a host of other issues and a host of personal characteristics, the president was ahead. and that has helped him stay ahead in the horse race polls. what you've seen since the first debate obviously is in some plac places
. ohio, president is up six. in colorado, romney leads 48-vii. the latest quinnipiac poll for cbs and the "new york times." romney's victory strategy hinges on those four states more than any others. the real clear politic average shows tie in florida. in ohio, president is up over a point. virginia, he remains ahead by half a point. and romney has that same lead in colorado. >> prayer is the most helpful thing you can do for me. >> mr. romney met with reverend billy graham and his son in north carolina, a state mr. obama won in 2008. but where romney aides are confident a victory this time. both president obama and romney were on the stump yesterday in ohio where they bemoaned the president's lack of leadership. >> time and time again the president told us he'd take on these things and hasn't. he turns around and tries to blame others. congress won't get together. congress won't get together unless there is a strong lead they're puts them together. >> at the tail end of his meeting with the reverend billy graham, the reverend said to mitt romney i will do anything i can to help y
the cbs but not by a huge margin and then the cnn poll among all voters, paul ryan had the advantage. it was almost a split decision, not only in that focus group but also the insta-polls. democrats loved it, republicans didn't. people are split and i think that's your verdict. >> speaking of focus groups, we get the sense that the obama campaign is going to be effective? >> i think joe biden gave them a road map. abortion was a hit on romney and ryan. it was almost like obama was a little too cold the first debate. joe biden was was hot and goldi might come. >> he has to find goldilocks. stick around because this was not the feistiest debate of the night. i'll give you nasty, go to arizona. >>> who was the last chief justice nominated to the supreme court by a democrat? it's chief justice fred vincent or as he is known here on campus dead fred. vinson was appointed to the high court by president harry truman is an iconic college alum. they take his portrait to every home football game and other big events on campus. dead fred was there for the first thrill in the ville back in 2000
it on cbs "early today." >> right now the romney campaign is running away from some of their positions like unwanted stepchildren, but we're going to hold them to them and explain to the country exactly what the differences are here because the choice is very stark. >> what do you make of that? >> this is always -- it's interesting, this has always been their position. back in the spring i had a conversation with david plouffe where he said, you know, this choice between flip-flopper and hard right conservative is a false choice. >> have they meat up their mind yet? >> he said we're going to do both. when he tries to flip and flop we'll call him coreless but try to pin him back -- >> what's better -- >> extremism. >> that's what i said. everybody thinks politicians are politicians, and that they flip. they all believe that. >> that's their point. their point is you can say both. look, he's lying to you here. he's being coreless, being phony, but this is what he actually believes. it's exactly what axelrod is saying. the phrase someone used in the campaign back in the spring is we need to fr
over the last few days, in our polling, in ohio, florida, and virginia, in the cbs/"new york times" polling, it feels like everything has moved to what i would call preconvention, right, before there was a democratic bounce, and before there was any sort of romney bounce, where this is a close race, but when you look in the battleground states there seems to be still a small advantage for the president. look at ohio. i think the most important number of the polls we had today was this early voting result that we found where one in five ohioans have already voted and the president's winning 2-1 among those folks that have already voted. that's a big organizational advantage. he's banking some vote. that's a big deal, and that's an important result to look at. i also think there's some other trend here that i want to keep an eye on which is it seems romney got a bigger bounce in the national polls than we're seeing in some of these states and could it be that there was more room for him to grow in the non-battleground states than there was in the battleground states where there's bee
romney closing the gap in some key battleground states. surveys from quinnpiac university, cbs news and the "new york times" show a dead heat in colorado and mitt romney cutting the president's lead in wisconsin in half. fox' dug luzader looks ahead to tonight. >>reporter: both vice presidential candidates are heading into tonight's debate with some new poll numbers. this is our brand new fox news poll. it shows that joe biden and paul ryan are pretty evenly matched within the margin of error as far as their favorability numbers are concerned, but look at the unfavorables. that's where joe biden tonight has some ground to make up. paul ryan arrives in kentucky for his big night, swarmed by supporters. vice president joe biden is scheduled to arrive later today. this one on one between them is getting a lot of buildup because the stakes are so high after last week's obama/romney debate that may have turned this race on its head. president obama still stinging after what was seen as a weak performance told abc's "world news" last night that biden just needs to be himself. >> you know
and state department said no. let's take a listen to what he said to cbs news. he's going to be testifying this morning at that oversight hearing. let's take a listen. >> -- or continued security that we had, that we had known, that we had come to live with and work with there for the environment we had, we felt we needed more, not less. >> and, zoraida, when asked who felt that you needed to do more with less, he said the state department superiors. and we also hear that eric who will also be testifying today, a former regional top security officer in libya, had repeatedly asked the state department for additional personnel for benghazi, received no response several times, zoraida. this is going to be a key focus, i believe, at that hearing this morning. >> so many concerning details we're hearing. we appreciate it, elise. >>> today's libya attack hearing begins at noon eastern time the keep it tuned to cnn and cnn.com for the latest throughout the day. >>> call it a buckeye bounce, mitt romney making big gains in ohio after the first debate. this is a new cnn/orc poll. the president's le
of thought to these big issues. cnn gave the nod to paul ryan in their poll they did last night. cbs gave the nod to joe biden. >> biden did well two. ryan was after the independent, undecided voter. biden was after the democrats that were unenthusiastic about people who were not impressed with the obama debate, the true believers, joe took a couple of five-hour energy tkreupblgt drinks beforehand. maybe he over did it a little bit. came out there, he has white treat that he likes to grimace and show and grin as much as possible. he did what he needed to do which is to stay to democrats, obama had a terrible performs are form answer in the first debate and i made up for it in the second. bill: this is joe biden and paul ryan talking about -- ryan reached the point of frustration with the grimacing and interruptions and the smiling and this is what happened. >> this is a man who gave 30% of his income to char ao a tee, more than the two of us combined. romney ace good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. and with respect to that kwoerbgts i think the vice president very w
. and adding insult to injury, cbs canceled the first new show of the tv season made in jersey about a jury the girl and arrogant -- they make it wasn't a good show. i looked at it for two seconds. good bye. we are a few days into earnings season. all eyes on two banks that will be reporting. big banks. sandra smith at the trade day. sandra: looking at the numbers here it is going to be interesting. set up ahead of the bank earnings tomorrow. as i show you numbers and the dow and s&p and nasdaq suffered a precipitous fall for the past several days. we have seen only a couple companies report -- most companies that have reported -- if you look at the big ones like alcoa, look at what they took after it kicked off earning season tuesday back below $9 a share. alcoa lowered its aluminum demand forecasts. this is a huge global company. commons reported lower its 2012 forecast. customers are putting off their purchases and reported mixed sales forecasts and that stock tumbling 2%. here you go. wells fargo, j. p. morgan reporting tomorrow and the numbers are expected to be pretty decent for both
one camera even when they are not speaking. and it goes on to say the major networks, abc, cbs, cnn and fox news all say they plan to use the screen shots regularly throughout the vice presidential debate. they said it is even considering them during the presidential debate last week. in denver some of the candidates in the past have tried it with varying degrees of success to the limit from using what our reaction shots from candidates. to bill clinton and president george bush in '92 when it starts to write into the debate contract the television networks could not broadcast such images. the story goes on to say networks use whatever schultz the choose despite the pressure from the campaign and the year typically nine cameras hosted by the commission on the presidential debate a nonpartisan organization that oversees the production while the commission has final say over whether the cameras -- where they are placed they do not control the mechanics of filming the camera angles or decisions about when to cut away. it is left solely to the discretion of the network pool is providing
poll, "new york times/cbs news poll", finding governor romney gaining strength in colorado, virginia, and which is even though the president still hold as slight advantage in two of those states. shane deapril, editor of campaigns and election magazine. great to have you back with us. interesting to hear the calf yes yacht there. gains by governor romney but the president still slightly made. what do you make of these polls? >> jenna we talk about how presidential debates are rarely decisive. history has certainly shown that to be the case. what this latest set of numbers show they could really provide some momentum one way or the other. i don't think there is any doubt that mitt romney's solid performance in the first debate led to particularly the uptick in his favorability numbers you've seen in a couple of these polls. overall though, the top lynum members still, there's an advantage there for president obama. momentum certainly swinging mitt romney's way in a couple of these states. he has to keep that up particularly in virginia, ohio and florida. jenna: in "the wall street jou
and cnbc did polls and mr. ryan was on top. cbs had one with some focus group. they felt that the vice president won. peggy nuland writes fort second time in two weeks, the democrat came out and defeated himself. in both cases, the republican was strong and the democrat somewhat disturbing. another way to say it is the old man tried it patronize the kid and the kid stood his ground. the old man pushed and the kid pushed back. >> brian: she did not mean that complimentary. >> gretchen: i actually think had is a debate that's going to percolate over a couple of days. when people go back and read and maybe see video and see this reaction, i think it may percolate over time where people will maybe change their opinion of exactly how it went. >> brian: it was -- >> gretchen: i think a lot of people -- i think it rubbed them the wrong way with the attitude. the headlines now. one month after ambassador chris stevens was murdered, the obama administration has named a new american envoy to libya. lawrence pope will represent our country until the white house nominate has new ambassador. >> bri
there, though a doifrnt poll from cbs shows obama still leading there. the "wall street journal" poll, mitt romney trails in florida and is down six in ohio. a quinnipiac poll shows him up three points in three other states. cnn's paul steinhauser is at the site in danville, kentucky with an inside look. >> reporter: 14 hours from now behind me on this stage, the only vice presidential debate in the campaign. they've been behind closed doors getting ready for this big showdown. the republican running mate got here to kentucky yesterday. before he arrived, he played a little bit of the expectations game, kind of lowering the bar for himself. >> joe biden has been on this stage many times before. it's my first time. sure it's a nervous situation because joe biden is one of the most experienced debaters we have in modern politics. >> as for vice president joe biden, he gets here later today. how is it going to work? to tell us. frank farencoff. >> it will be similar to the start of the colorado debate except that these two will be seated at a table. the vice president will be on the left
the opposite. there's a cbs poll which shows biden won by 11%. that's the kind of polling you will see. ryan did fine. i think he held his own. i think that he, you know, watched with the expertise, and the gravitas of joe biden, and the energy of joe biden, i do in the think >> and the age of joe biden. not easy to debate your father. >> for a vice presidential nominee the bar is to prove you could be president if you had to. any doubt that paul ryan met that? >> yeah, i doubt it. i don't want him to be president. i'd be scared if he was president. >> i think you're in the mine or -- a lot this morning are saying he looked like he could handle it. >> you know, when it came to foreign policy he looked very robotic, i thought. i thought that, you know, he looked like he had a good training. >> when you listen to his answers, he splay looked robotic, but when you listen to the substance of his answers. >> i think there were a lot of questions he didn't answer. i think there were a lot of moments where he just kind of, you know, shrugged his shoulders. >> ana, let me ask you, martha, pushed pau
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